Hi, my name is Kris Newlin: I'm a licensed professional counselor, registered board-certified art therapist, and mixed media artist. I enjoyed hanging out with Hoang today and just talking about the impact of mental health and art both on an individual scale and a larger scale in the community. And we ended everything talking about pizza, so we had a great time, and it was fun to be part of the show today.

Welcome back to the undefeated show Defining Moments Podcast. We are located here in the triple B of OKC in Kyle Golding's beautiful studio.

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