March 18, 2026

Defund Education? This HVAC Professor Explains Why

45 minutes

Highlights from this week’s conversation include:

Previewing Today’s Episode with Bob Clark (0:56)

Owen Takes on the Trump Administration’s Voluntary Data Center Pledge (3:02)

Why Non-Binding Net Zero and AI Commitments Keep Failing (4:39)

The White House “Ratepayer Protection” Pledge and Its Limits (5:49)

Chamath’s Idea: Free Solar and Batteries for Homeowners (8:17)

Transition from Policy Rant to Interview with Bob Clark (10:39)

AI in the Classroom and the Erosion of Student Creativity (13:42)

What’s Wrong with Career and Technical Education Leadership (15:58)

CTE as a National Defense Issue and the Cost of Skilled Labor (20:11)

Can the Current Republican Moment Actually Help the Trades? (27:05)

Energy Reality Check: Natural Gas, Electrification, and Grid Efficiency (29:13)

Policy Made by People Who Can’t Wire a Light Switch (32:42)

Education Politics, Labs as Museums, and Real Hands-On Learning (37:21)

Why Technicians Are Largely Bulletproof to AI (41:17)

Final Thoughts, What Gives Bob Hope, and the Call for Accountability (43:32)

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