Defy is an early-stage focused venture fund based in Silicon Valley. In this episode, Madison McIlwain, a Partner at Defy, catches up with Pedro Muller, GM of Startups at Zendesk. The pair discuss Madison’s journey from growing up chatting entrepreneurship at family meals, to transitioning out of the corporate world. Learn about: 

• The role of Venture Capital on the startup ecosystem 
• How innovative investors are making it easy for founders to grow their business
• Advice for getting backed by a venture capital firm