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DEI Must DIE

Reforming DEI: Tackling Fatigue, Wokeness, and the Path Forward

In this episode of the Active Learning Podcast, host Viana Maya delves into the controversial topic of the future of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives. Sparked by a recent declaration by the owner of X (formerly Twitter) that DEI must die by the end of 2023, Maya explores the ensuing debate involving Mark Cuban and the broader implications for DEI. The podcast covers key issues like DEI fatigue, the term 'woke,' weaponisation, and the need for substantive DEI reform. It concludes with actionable steps for organisations to create meaningful DEI initiatives and foster a genuine sense of inclusion and belonging.


00:00 Introduction to a Provocative Topic

01:43 Understanding DEI Fatigue

03:42 The Weaponisation of 'Woke'

08:57 Case Study: Goldman Sachs 1 Million Black Women Program

11:20 The Need for Radical DEI Reform

17:35 Steps to Move Forward with DEI Initiatives

22:49 Conclusion and Next Steps


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