In this episode, Ash Malena and Refie Redzuan engage in an exchange of thoughts to illuminate the illusions. The conversation on HE demystifies “delulu”—the state of being delusional and finding solutions by keeping an optimistic and imaginative mindset. However, it is essential to strike a balance. While “delulu” can give a short-term boost, it is crucial not to lose touch with reality. The journey of ‘delulu’ with overconfidence can sometimes lead to impulsive decisions or unrealistic expectations. • Ash Malena is a nom de plume.

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