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Demand Side Finally Gets Mainstream Attention with Tony Arnel


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Dr. Greg Trainor and Neil Belford speak with Tony Arnel, Professor and former Deputy Chair of Forest and Wood Products Australia, and past President of the Energy Efficiency Council. Tony explains how demand-side management evolved from "not sexy at all" to mainstream conversation over 17 years, shaped by the Council's advocacy for stronger building standards, appliance ratings, and electrification pathways. He reveals the elephant in the room: millions of existing buildings built before performance standards existed, and why Australia still lags European minimum standards despite moving from four to seven-star housing ratings. The conversation shifts to forestry's surprising role in the energy transition—Australia is a net importer of timber despite vast forests, and timber buildings from cross-laminated structures to 45-story towers like Sydney's Atlassian building offer carbon sequestration advantages while improving indoor air quality and occupant wellbeing.

(00:00) Introduction and Energy Efficiency Council's demand-side focus

(06:00) Council's advocacy role and influence on national policy

(16:00) Social license and consumer support for energy efficiency

(21:00) The elephant: existing buildings and international standards gap

(27:00) Forestry's role and Australia as net timber importer

(33:00) Cross-laminated timber renaissance in commercial buildings

(38:00) Industry professor role connecting academia with research funding

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