Forging Wellness

Dena Ali - Leading with Heart: Firefighter Wellness, HRV, and the Power of Peer Support


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Can we build resilience without ignoring the realities of trauma? Can hope truly come out of darkness?

In this compelling episode, we sit down with Dena Ali, Battalion Chief, mental health researcher, peer support pioneer, and author of the powerful new book Hope Out of Darkness.

Dena shares her journey from firefighter to national mental health advocate, the science behind stress and suicide in the fire service, and why data, compassion, and leadership must work together to change our culture.

We dive into: šŸ“– The story behind her book Hope Out of Darkness 🧠 How trauma rewires our brains—and how we take back control ā¤ļø Why Heart Rate Variability (HRV) is a game-changer for firefighter wellness šŸ”„ How peer support can work if done right šŸ’” Real, practical strategies for leaders and firefighters alike šŸŽ§ Plus: firehouse fun questions and her favorite guilty pleasure

This episode is deep, inspiring, and a reminder that we're all human under the helmet—and we don't have to carry the weight alone.

šŸŽ§ Now available on Spotify, Apple, YouTube, and more.

⁠Brene Brown⁠

⁠Deep Survival⁠ - Laurence Gonzales

⁠The Beauty of a Darker Soul⁠ - Joshua Mantz

⁠Hope Out of Darkness⁠ - Dena Ali

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Forging WellnessBy Jesse Clark