"A reframing of what failure is, what it means, and the importance of it can completely transform the way a person understands themselves and the challenges in the middle of a complex situation."

Denise VanEck is owner of Thought Design, author of Failure: Laboratory Workshops, a coach, and obsessed with failure. She and Wendy unpack this "juicy" topic and discuss how to better harness with this inevitable experience that our brains love but our egos hate.