<p>Daniel and Justin are live from the Chairman’s Lounge at ASIO headquarters to talk about do-gooding pianists and the redefinition of “refugees”.</p>

Daniel and Justin are live from the Chairman’s Lounge at ASIO headquarters to talk about do-gooding pianists and the redefinition of “refugees”.

Departing the Ben Chifley Building

Live from the place where the real decisions are made the Chairman's Lounge. Writers and broadcasters, Daniel James and Justin Smith discuss the big stories of the week.

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Departing the Ben Chifley Building

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