Mike talks with former Democratic activist Lisa Ekman, whose recently released book is titled Deprogramming Democrats & unEducating the Elites: How I Escaped the Progressive Cult.

Topics Mike &  Lisa discuss include:

Ekman’s background in Democratic politics

government and expert failure during COVID

the tension between public health policy and liberty

the problem with replacing equality with equity

communist thinking in classrooms

returning power to the states and the people

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