In this episode of Rules Don’t Apply, Lisa Watts, CEO of The Conversation, joins Dan Krigstein for a deep dive into truth, trust, and the future of Australian media.

Lisa shares how The Conversation is redefining journalism by partnering with academics to make complex ideas clear, credible, and accessible to everyone and why, in an era of AI and misinformation, that mission has never mattered more.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

• How The Conversation bridges the gap between academia and the public to make knowledge more accessible.

• Why building trust, not chasing clicks, is the real currency of modern media.

• Lisa’s perspective on navigating AI, misinformation, and the responsibility of truth-telling.

• What authentic, evidence-based journalism looks like in 2025 and beyond.

• The power of expert voices and how they can help shape a more informed, fact-led future.

This is one you won't want to miss, because redefining truth starts with the right conversation.