Deron & I met at GCU in 1986 and have been buddies ever since. We've done podcasts and radio shows together, but on this episode, we chat about Deron's "hobby"...horse racing!

Deron started Filip Racing, with his wife, Cindy, and we dig into how he got started with racing, when he decided to start a team, how it went, and what they are doing now.

I hope you enjoy this fascinating conversation about horse racing...thanks for listening!