James turns his attention to Utah, and the 1990 case of an unidentified woman found in the Desert. He speaks with retired Medical Examiner Dr Todd Grey - a colleague from the Cold Case Foundation - discussing how that case was eventually attributed to serial killer Robert Ben Rhoades.

8: Deseret

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Out Of The Cold EXTRA: What is it really like to attend a hoarder's house, and what challenges does society face at identifying mental health issues?

15: Hoarding

Out Of The Cold EXTRA: What is it really like to attend a fatal fire, which sense is most likely to induce recall of trauma, and do business administration process really matter to investigations?

14: Fatal Fires

In the finale of Season 1, James focuses on the solutions which come from the in-depth review of the case of serial killer Robert Ben Rhoades.

12: The Road

James looks at the case of Marsha Wilson, referred for review by a retired detective checking if it could have been a Rhoades case, and discusses other murderous truck drivers - examining how, by understanding their offending and moving away from victim bias, we may be able to save more lives in future.

11: Drivers

James discusses the origins of the Cold Case Foundation with Greg Cooper and Dean Jackson, exploring why the case of Robert Ben Rhoades became so integral to the Foundation's creation. This episode includes discussions of the complex issues of trust in policing arising from the tragic murder of Sarah Everard and the conviction of her killer, serving police officer Wayne Couzens. Some listeners may find this episode distressing and we advise additional caution.

8: Deseret

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