In this episode, we sit down with Patricia Yu, Senior Product Designer at Adobe, who's thinking about design systems in a way most designers haven't considered yet — one that includes conversational guidelines for AI interactions, not just visual tokens and components.

Patricia walks us through the triple diamond design process she uses at Adobe, how enterprise design systems are evolving from Figma-based component libraries toward something closer to vibe coding systems, and what it looks like when a large company starts encoding brand voice and conversation rules into the tools their teams use daily. We also get into her honest take on Claude Code vs Cursor — why she's making the switch, what she still appreciates about Cursor, and how she's been experimenting with the Figma MCP + Claude workflow on personal projects despite enterprise privacy restrictions.

We close on a topic that doesn't get discussed enough: the pace difference between startups and enterprise when it comes to AI adoption. Patricia makes the case that large orgs are closer than you think — they're just watching, learning, and moving deliberately.

🔗 Patricia Yu on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patriciayu00/🔗 Adobe: https://www.adobe.com