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Design Thinking K–12 + AI + Industry: The Colorado Model That’s Working (interview with Joe McBreen)


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What if 'career readiness' wasn’t a slogan—but a real job?In this episode, we talk with Joe McBreen, Assistant Superintendent of Innovation for St. Vrain Valley Schools (Colorado), about building a preschool–12 innovation center that operates like an R&D lab for public education. Students 'test drive' careers through pathways like AI, cybersecurity, drones, underwater robotics, entrepreneurship, video arts, and game design—and after school, many of them do real work for real clients… as paid district employees.Joe shares how the center scaled from a classroom idea (2013) to a standalone facility (2016) that’s now expanding—plus how the district moved early on generative AI with an 'Ethos' framework, standardized tools, and deep community involvement. You’ll also hear jaw-dropping examples: students using computer vision to count fish for a county project, and a high school drone performance team landing professional gigs nationwide.If you care about AI literacy, workforce partnerships, or what authentic learning actually looks like—this one’s a blueprint.00:04 – Meet Joe McBreen + why this innovation role matters00:41 – Janitorial roots → culture-first leadership + 'human advantage'03:06 – What the Innovation Center is (and isn’t): P–12, districtwide, R&D mindset04:37 – Pathways overview: AI, cybersecurity, underwater robotics, entrepreneurship, media, game design05:26 – The after-school engine: students on payroll doing real client work06:04 – Case study: underwater robot team boosts water plant efficiency07:35 – How long this took: from classroom (2013) → facility (2016) → expansion08:41 – How students attend: enrichment model + buses + 'test driving' careers10:34 – How they choose programs without chasing shiny objects (advisory boards + 'strategic abandonment')11:51 – Quantum in K–12: building new pathways before the wave hits13:45 – Scholarships & differentiation: real projects over résumé-padding15:29 – The drone team: FAA licensing + professional shows16:09 – 'World’s first' high school drone performance team + industry partnership18:55 – Districtwide AI approach: early training + community input + tool standardization21:07 – Ethos framework: obtain → train → sustain (and why sustainability gets ignored)23:07 – AI leadership team after school + global competition wins24:29 – Case study: AI computer vision fish-counting for parks/open space28:42 – Summer camps + high schoolers teaching younger students33:12 – Why this model doesn’t easily 'copy/paste' into traditional high schools35:01 – Students’ reaction to college: surprise + disappointment at lack of authentic learning36:00 – Side hustles in college: students flying commercial drone shows nationwide37:40 – Higher ed partnerships + students building professional networks at 1538:47 – Building intrinsic motivation: belonging, safety, and the 'teacher variable'45:01 – Advice to districts starting AI: go together + lead with values46:49 – Advice to professors: talk to students like humans48:24 – 'You don’t need a fancy building': partnerships, pride, and not asking for handouts50:04 – Where to learn more + how to connect#aixhigheredpodcast #AIinEducation #K12Innovation #CareerConnectedLearning #StudentAgency #CTE #FutureReady #DesignThinking #WorkBasedLearning #EducationLeadership #GenerativeAI #EdTech #IndustryPartnerships #ProjectBasedLearning #InnovationCenter #HigherEd

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AI x Higher Ed PodcastBy Anand Rao