In this episode, Jeff sits down with someone who's been in the trenches, taken big swings, gotten knocked flat, and gotten back up again — Mo Bunnell, founder and CEO of Bunnell Idea Group and bestselling author of The Snowball System and Give to Grow.

Mo's story isn't a straight line. It's a series of pivots, experiments, wrong turns, bold moves, and moments when he had to trust himself enough to take the next step. Jeff and Mo talk about the quiet fear that comes with stepping out on your own, the 100-day cash crisis that pushed him to rebuild from scratch, and the principles that guided him from actuarial spreadsheets to training more than 60,000 people around the world.

Connect with Mo:

Website: bunnellideagroup.com

LinkedIn: Mo Bunnell

Books: Amazon

YouTube: @MoBunnell1