Christopher met Derek building a fire pit in Upstate NY back 2015 and their lives have never been the same. In this incredibly casual conversation towards the front side of Christopher's podcasting career, they talk about all of the fun and great work they have achieved together building decks, designing and building the new KISMET COWORK work spaces together, creating some gorgeous radio/bar/office solutions and having a good old time. It's been some inventive and productive years on both parts. Derek Weston and Christopher Plant both graduated from the Massachusetts College of Art and Design, just 20 years apart.