In this episode of Less Talk, More Action, Joel and Owen welcome James Ball, Director of the Future Cities Initiative at the National Building Museum. The conversation explores the need for a radical reimagining of urban development, moving beyond individual building approaches to a holistic city-level perspective. James challenges current sustainability narratives, emphasizing the importance of community engagement, diverse perspectives, and creating an optimistic vision for urban transformation. Key takeaways include the necessity of breaking out of existing regulatory and design constraints, the power of including multiple stakeholders in urban planning, and the potential for innovative solutions that make sustainable design more appealing and accessible. The episode underscores the importance of hope, creativity, and collective action in addressing climate change and urban challenges. Don’t miss this great conversation!

Highlights from this week’s conversation include:

• Reflections on James Ball & National Building Museum (1:22)
• Segment: Owen and Joel Play Climate Skeptics (2:12)
• Debate on Climate Predictions and Communication (4:21)
• Welcoming James to the Show (7:38)
• What is the National Building Museum? (10:16)
• Cities vs. Buildings: The Right Scale for Change (14:46)
• Rethinking Messaging and Community Engagement (16:11)
• Design, Aesthetics, and the Loss of Urban Character (18:20)
• Emerging Community Models & Rethinking Development (23:32)
• Who Is Responsible for Change? (25:35)
• Unlocking Innovation: Prefab, Financing, and Systemic Barriers (28:18)
• Entrepreneurial Ideas: Biophilia and Interior Insulation (31:23)
• Living Building Challenge & Community Inspiration (35:24)
• Hope, Community, and Personal Resilience (40:37)
• Connecting with James and Parting Thoughts (42:07)

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