Vocalist for the hardcore/metal/punk outift Desmadre NM, originally out ot Espanola, New Mexico Michael Hodock joins me to talk about the latest show and things that Desmadre have coming up. Michael is also an entertaiment journalist for the The Paper (https://abq.news) on online peridical out of Albuquerque, New Mexico, he also gives us some interesting takes from that side of the spectrum.