We start this fine episode by reflecting on (and playing) the two new songs we have in the works. Doug gets pissy. Jim makes fun of him. Andris is awkward.

Next, we interview Mark Ignoffo, recording engineer to the stars. Mark got his start in Chicago and recorded some amazing bands, including a very young Smashing Pumpkins. He also played on a few Smashing Pumpkins songs that made it on their first album. And he recounts that Billy Corgan had the loudest amp he’s ever recorded.