This week brings you the multifaceted gem that is rapper/singer/writer Dessa, who by the way also happens to host the great podcast Deeply Human! From seasick-stage-surfing to teenage-mood-surfing to creative-outlet-surfing, Dessa brings frank introspection, wisdom and humor to this convo, just as she does in her work… and manages to get some herstorical tidbits out of JV in the process!