Tony sits down this week to talk about what really matters with mom, wife, secular feminist, and pro life advocate Destiny Herndon de-la Rosa. Tony realized as they were preping for the interview that he and Destiny actually went to High School together, and they even had some friends in common, but never met. Now Destiny is one of the most powerful voices in the secular prolife feminist movement. Destiny has had an amazing journey and live and it was a blas to talk with her.

This is part of a two part series on understanding feminism, so we invited Claire Swinarski of The Catholic Feminist Podcast to join us as cohost for this episode and the next.

Check out Destiny's work at New Wave Feminist.

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