Kristina brings close friend, comedian, and Pastor Johnny Giovati on the show. They talk messy Los Angeles church culture, the "what do we do now" era of those navigating post-Covid faith journeys, how to stay encouraged within diverse interpretations of faithfulness, and all the messy in-betweens. Johnny shares some personal news in his journey and lets the world know, we are doing enough and fully accepted. He may have even made Kristina cry.

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