What if deploying to the cloud were as simple as running an app on your laptop?

In this inspiring episode, Jim sat down with Prakash Sundaresan, Founder of Defang, to unpack one of the most persistent challenges in modern software development: cloud complexity.

With nearly 30 years of experience spanning Microsoft, AWS, and Workday, Prakash has seen the cloud from every angle - as a builder, an operator, and a customer. That unique perspective led to Defang: a developer-first, cross-cloud platform that lets teams deploy production-grade applications to AWS, GCP, and beyond using the same Docker Compose file they already use locally - with a single command.

In this conversation, Prakash explains:

• Why cloud complexity affects startups and enterprises alike

• How Defang bridges the gap between simple platforms and hyperscaler power

• What “develop once, deploy anywhere” really looks like in practice

• How Defang uses AI responsibly - to assist, not introduce risk

• Why agentic AI applications represent the next major platform shift

• And how Defang has grown to nearly 10,000 developers with rapid month-over-month adoption

This episode is a must-listen for developers, founders, DevOps leaders, and anyone building the next generation of cloud and AI applications.

If you’ve ever felt that infrastructure was slowing innovation instead of enabling it, this conversation will change how you think about the cloud.