The Beyond The Fog Radio team is hard at work recording and editing new episodes for Season 4 — releasing this August! — but in the meantime, we’re looking back at some of our favorite interviews from Seasons 2 and 3. This week, we revisit our interview with developers and community leaders Michael Baines and Cathy Davis (Season 3 Episode 06).

Michael Baines is a developer and contractor for low-income housing and the founder BGI Group Inc., the largest employer of formerly-incarcerated people in the Bay Area. Cathy Davis is the Executive Director of Bayview Hunters Point Multipurpose Senior Services, a nonprofit that provides services to disadvantaged seniors in San Francisco. She also runs the Dr. George W. Davis Senior Center, founded by her late husband Dr. George Davis and built by Michael’s company.

Together, these two have made an immense and tangible impact on their community. Their social justice development model has broken barriers for the city’s seniors, and even involved whole communities to create a commercial kitchen that generates profit for the senior center. They do their work humbly and whole-heartedly. We believe this interview is priceless in its wisdom about helping those in need.

Let’s take another listen to Michael Baines and Cathy Davis!

(For more information about Michael Baines and his company, visit bgiconstruction.com/bgi-management .

For more information about Cathy Davis and her work, please visit facebook.com/SanFranciscoHousingDevelopmentCorporation/videos/235718538565982 .)