Today we talk with Devi Laskar, the award-winning author of the fabulous book, The Atlas of Reds and Blues. Devi shares her long and difficult (and ultimately extremely encouraging) journey into publishing which included losing a manuscript.

Devi also gives some of the most practical creative advice anyone has given on the podcast. If you feel like giving up, or if you want to be encouraged in your creative pursuits, you don’t want to miss this one.