In this episode we talk with Kevlin Henney, an independent software development consultant and trainer from the United Kingdom, well-known from one of his books '97 Things Every Programmer Should Know'. In the interview we discuss a wide variety of subjects in software development, like the agile community, patterns, learning and languages.

Kevlin shares his thoughts on the software craftmanship movement and states his opinion on the discussion whether our profession is a form of engineering or not. In some parts of this discussion we refer to the Hot-or-Not presentation that Kevlin gave the night before the interview at Sioux, the Netherlands. You can find the slides of this presentation here.

The interview was recorded at the hotel 'la Sonnerie' in Son & Breugel. We would like to thank the hotel for their hospitality by providing the chapel as a recording room for the podcast.

Interview by @freekl en @arnetim
Audio post-production by @mendelt