Join host Mike Kavis as he sits down with Jayne Groll, co-founder and CEO of the DevOps Institute, to talk about DevOps--what it is and isn't--and the critical skillsets needed for success. Mike and Jayne also discuss change management, and how the human element plays a crucial role in helping companies use DevOps to transform both IT and the enterprise value stream. Finally, they engage in a lively debate about what a DevOps Engineer is--or whether they even exist.