After a brief podcast hiatus, Mitch and Alan discuss why it isn't a DevOps versus platform engineering debate. Rather, platform engineering helps scale DevOps, among PE's many, many benefits. They discuss the launch of platformengineering.com and its new podcast. They also delve into the debate about AI's impact on software development.

Mitch and Alan discuss what's required to take a holistic approach to software supply chain security and how DevOps has not only survived, but thrived as it's adapted over the years and helped for new XOps variations and platform engineering.

In this episode of DevOps Chats, Alan Shimel and Mitch Ashley discuss the rapid integration of AI co-pilots in software tools, emphasizing the need for a unified AI interface to streamline user experience. They explore the evolving concept of DevSecOps, advocating for a holistic approach that includes both software development and underlying toolchain security. The chat also teases upcoming research reports on DevOps trends and AI's role in the industry.

In this episode of DevOps Chats, Alan Shimel and Mitch Ashley discuss the rapid integration of AI co-pilots in software tools, emphasizing the need for a unified AI interface to streamline user experience. They explore the evolving concept of DevSecOps, advocating for a holistic approach that includes both software development and underlying toolchain security. The chat also teases upcoming research reports on DevOps trends and AI's role in the industry.

After being on the conference circuit for weeks, Alan and Mitch explore whether GPT-4o might show the way for new web and mobile experiences, the upheaval happening in open source and what happens when business models and financial interests force business licensing changes and move away from the spirit of open source.

Alan and Mitch discuss several AI and DevOps topics, including the debate of whether DevOps failed us or if platform engineering is ignoring history; Tabnine is a Microsoft copilot alternative to generate code ; and does your Gen AI get mentally stuck on one path of thinking.

Reference Links:

Tabnine:

https://devops.com/tabnine-extends-gen-ai-platform-for-writing-code-to-multiple-llms

AI:

https://devops.com/your-ai-might-be-lying-to-you

Alan and Mitch discuss whether platform engineering will be "the game changer" some predict will happen in 2024, the evolution of CI/CD frameworks (ArgoCD, Tekton), and Mitch's interview with Cole Kennedy, TestifySec CEO, about securing software from source to production.

Links Referenced in Podcast:

https://devops.com/platform-engineering-the-2024-game-changer-in-tech

https://devops.com/driving-the-devops-evolution-argocd-tekton-and-seamless-migrations https://techstrong.tv/videos/interviews/securing-source-to-production-with-testifysecs-cole-kennedy

Alan and Mitch debate whether AI can make "no shift" vs. shift left a viable future testing software in production, the "five great DevOps job opportunities" series on DevOps.com, TabNine generative AI testing platform now adds your code into the LLM to generate tests and whether DevOps should be open-ended or have an end goal.

Links Referenced in Podcast:

https://devops.com/forget-shift-left-why-no-shift-is-the-future-of-software-innovation/

https://devops.com/five-great-devops-job-opportunities-77/

https://devops.com/tabnine-extends-generative-ai-testing-platform-by-embracing-rag/

https://devops.com/devops-whats-the-end-goal/

In this episode of DevOps Chats, Alan and Mitch dive deep into the heart of DevOps. After 12 years of DevOps evolution, we're asking the big question: How has our investment in DevOps paved the way for organizational success in the years to come? This segment promises a thought-provoking look at the achievements, challenges, and road ahead for DevOps enthusiasts. They discuss DevOps insights expected to be part of the upcoming Techstrong Research "DevOps Next" report.

They also share Mitch's interview with Ben Potter, Head of Product at Coder, where he sheds light on the game-changing world of cloud development environments.

Whether you're a DevOps veteran or new to the scene, this episode has insights and stories that will enrich your understanding and spark your imagination. Join us as we explore the cutting edge of DevOps and cloud development only on DevOps Chats.

Links Referenced in Podcast:

https://techstrong.tv/videos/interviews/cloud-dev-environments-coder-ben-potter

Mitch and Alan discuss Dagger's Solomon Hyke interview on modernizing DevOps pipelines the current realities of open source, the growth in software supply chain attacks and the value of doing smaller code reviews.

Links Referenced in Podcast:

https://devclass.com/2024/02/12/from-docker-to-dagger-solomon-hykes-on-modernisation-of-the-devops-pipeline/

https://devops.com/the-practicalities-of-open-sourcing

https://devops.com/survey-cyberattacks-aimed-at-software-supply-chains-are-pervasive

https://devops.com/improve-efficiency-with-smaller-code-reviews