In this episode of DevOps Chats, Alan Shimel and Mitch Ashley discuss the rapid integration of AI co-pilots in software tools, emphasizing the need for a unified AI interface to streamline user experience. They explore the evolving concept of DevSecOps, advocating for a holistic approach that includes both software development and underlying toolchain security. The chat also teases upcoming research reports on DevOps trends and AI's role in the industry.

After being on the conference circuit for weeks, Alan and Mitch explore whether GPT-4o might show the way for new web and mobile experiences, the upheaval happening in open source and what happens when business models and financial interests force business licensing changes and move away from the spirit of open source.

Alan and Mitch discuss several AI and DevOps topics, including the debate of whether DevOps failed us or if platform engineering is ignoring history; Tabnine is a Microsoft copilot alternative to generate code ; and does your Gen AI get mentally stuck on one path of thinking.

Reference Links:

Tabnine:

https://devops.com/tabnine-extends-gen-ai-platform-for-writing-code-to-multiple-llms

AI:

https://devops.com/your-ai-might-be-lying-to-you

Alan and Mitch discuss whether platform engineering will be "the game changer" some predict will happen in 2024, the evolution of CI/CD frameworks (ArgoCD, Tekton), and Mitch's interview with Cole Kennedy, TestifySec CEO, about securing software from source to production.

Links Referenced in Podcast:

https://devops.com/platform-engineering-the-2024-game-changer-in-tech

https://devops.com/driving-the-devops-evolution-argocd-tekton-and-seamless-migrations https://techstrong.tv/videos/interviews/securing-source-to-production-with-testifysecs-cole-kennedy

Alan and Mitch debate whether AI can make "no shift" vs. shift left a viable future testing software in production, the "five great DevOps job opportunities" series on DevOps.com, TabNine generative AI testing platform now adds your code into the LLM to generate tests and whether DevOps should be open-ended or have an end goal.

Links Referenced in Podcast:

https://devops.com/forget-shift-left-why-no-shift-is-the-future-of-software-innovation/

https://devops.com/five-great-devops-job-opportunities-77/

https://devops.com/tabnine-extends-generative-ai-testing-platform-by-embracing-rag/

https://devops.com/devops-whats-the-end-goal/

In this episode of DevOps Chats, Alan and Mitch dive deep into the heart of DevOps. After 12 years of DevOps evolution, we're asking the big question: How has our investment in DevOps paved the way for organizational success in the years to come? This segment promises a thought-provoking look at the achievements, challenges, and road ahead for DevOps enthusiasts. They discuss DevOps insights expected to be part of the upcoming Techstrong Research "DevOps Next" report.

They also share Mitch's interview with Ben Potter, Head of Product at Coder, where he sheds light on the game-changing world of cloud development environments.

Whether you're a DevOps veteran or new to the scene, this episode has insights and stories that will enrich your understanding and spark your imagination. Join us as we explore the cutting edge of DevOps and cloud development only on DevOps Chats.

Links Referenced in Podcast:

https://techstrong.tv/videos/interviews/cloud-dev-environments-coder-ben-potter

Mitch and Alan discuss Dagger's Solomon Hyke interview on modernizing DevOps pipelines the current realities of open source, the growth in software supply chain attacks and the value of doing smaller code reviews.

Links Referenced in Podcast:

https://devclass.com/2024/02/12/from-docker-to-dagger-solomon-hykes-on-modernisation-of-the-devops-pipeline/

https://devops.com/the-practicalities-of-open-sourcing

https://devops.com/survey-cyberattacks-aimed-at-software-supply-chains-are-pervasive

https://devops.com/improve-efficiency-with-smaller-code-reviews

From Boston, Alan and Mitch discuss their views on the state of the DevOps industry while on the road in 2024. They discuss several topics from DevOps.com, including Does Using AI Assistants Lead to Lower Code Quality?" by Bill Doerrfeld, who asks if we see code quality drop from the use of AI-assisted and generated code, "How to Get Platform Engineering Just Right" by Benjamin Brial with his recommendations for bringing platform engineering into an organization and reorganizations and layoff announcements at companies like Dell. They wrap up with Alan's interview "Advancing Vision Intelligence Filters" with Kit Merker in his new CEO role at Plainsight.

Links Referenced:

https://devops.com/does-using-ai-assistants-lead-to-lower-code-quality

https://devops.com/how-to-get-platform-engineering-just-right

https://techstrong.tv/videos/interviews/advancing-vision-intelligence-filters-plainsight-kit-merker

Description for Podcast page: Mitchell Ashley and Alan Shimel are once again hosting the Devops.com podcast. In this episode they discuss "the good news of DevOps". Gene Kim weighs in on why he changed the name of DOES. Also how Jenkins is still relevant if not dominant today and what we can expect to see there. Of course we had to discuss GenAI and DevOps, well because AI.

Links Referenced in Podcast:

https://devops.com/the-future-of-jenkins-in-2024/

https://devops.com/jenkins-and-jenkinsx-in-2024/

https://devops.com/using-llms-to-automate-pipeline-conversions-from-legacy-to-tekton/

https://techstrong.tv/videos/interviews/wiring-the-winning-organization-with-gene-kim

Stacey English, Theta Lake Director of Market Intelligence, shares the results of a report showing the usage of modern communications tools and video communications tools like Microsoft Teams, Cisco WebEx and Zoom has accelerated at a breakneck speed in recent years, and it shows no sign of slowing down.

https://thetalake.com