We are joined by The Not Historians Podcast hosts Shalom Agalaba and Desmon Dunn to chat about the NFL kneeling controversy. PLUS we spar about Betsy Devos' work at the Department of Education.

Devos Is In the Knee Tales ft. The Not Historians

Darwin Carlisle and Matt Loftin are former speech and debate teammates from Amarillo, Texas. For the next 10 years after High School they pursued very different careers, with Loftin heading to the East Coast in Washington, DC to go into politics, while Carlisle headed west to Los Angeles to go into film. They join back up here to discuss the unparalleled challenges their generation has faced, and to find a way to converse in our polarized political climate.

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Devos Is In the Knee Tales ft. The Not Historians

Devos Is In the Knee Tales ft. The Not Historians