What a blast this conversation was with Leonardo Solis - multi-instrumentalist, producer/engineer and co-founder of Four Finger Records. We pull some quotes from Pema Chodrön’s When Things Fall Apart, to explore conversations around turbulent times of uncertainty. Leo shares some great insight into how he manages to find peace within the chaos, and settle into a focus on the present moment as opposed to being consumed with the outcome.

“When things fall apart and we’re on the verge of we know not what, the test of each of us is to stay on the brink and not concretize.”

“Things are always in transition, if we could only realize it. The off-center, in between state is an ideal situation, a situation in which we don’t get caught and we can open our hearts and minds beyond limits.”

“To stay with that shakiness is the path of true awakening. Sticking with that uncertainty, learning to relax in the midst of chaos, learning not to panic – – this is the spiritual path. Getting the knack of catching ourselves, of gently and compassionately catching ourselves, is the path of the warrior.”

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