In the first ever discourse interview, I interview my instructor and mentor, Michael Maclean. A two stripe brown belt from Relson Gracie Academy in Columbus, OH with 10+ years dedicated to the art. He had some great stories and advice and I hope you all enjoy it as much as I did.

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Recorded: 2/8/18

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Intro and outro music provided by Brad Sucks under Creative Commons. Go listen to his music, it's awesome.

Intro clip provided by Joe Rogan Experience #935 from Robb Wolf.