Bonus episode: Hear my extended interview with architect and planner Dhiru Thadani. We discuss the history of urbanism as a design theory and the enduring value of beauty in our public and civic spaces.

We first met Dhiru in Episode 5: Looking for Beauty. This is our full conversation. If you enjoy this interview, be sure to subscribe and check out my regular, curated episodes on your favourite app or at www.hyacinthpodcast.com. Connect with @hyacinpodcast on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram

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