Michele shares that she met with a brand new therapist. She also finished reading the book How to Be a Person in the World by Heather Havrilesky.

Today Michele talks to her mom, Sue Baci, who shares her experience with Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT). Sue talks about learning skills to maintain good emotional health, mindfulness, how to compromise, and how she stayed calm during a family emergency. She explains how to avoid “catastrophic thinking,” including anxiety about dwelling the past or in the “what ifs.” They talk about the frustration and difficulty that comes along with diagnosing mental illness.

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