Jessica Wright (Empower Life Group) breaks down the most overlooked topic in life insurance: managing your product mix. Discover why 75% Level / 25% GI is the healthy book formula, how poor mix destroys cash flow through chargebacks and low persistency, and the niche carriers (Citizen CICA, Ethos, Royal Neighbors) that separate top producers from struggling agents. 

KEY TOPICS:

• The 75/25 Level/GI formula for sustainable business• How chargebacks in Year 2 wipe out months of earned commissions

• Why new agents default to GI (and how to stop)

• Niche carriers that give day-one coverage for "edgy" cases

• Mental health meds trigger false GI classifications (the Xanax trick)

• Commission rate traps within the same carrier

• Cash flow vs profitability: they're not the same

• Building reserves in your first 9 months

• Consistent $25K/month beats volatile $80K spikes

• Finding hidden money in unclaimed commissions

• The 2-account strategy to survive chargebacks

• Why knowing your contract rates changes everything

• Ethos pre-approval in 3-5 minutes

• Citizen CICA for CHF & COPD day-one coverage

• How to use AI tools to match clients to carriers by commission

• Team building without attracting fraudsters 

TIMESTAMPS:00:00:34 - Intro & Jessica's Background

00:01:04 - COVID Entry Into Life Insurance

00:02:22 - Independent vs Captive Agencies

00:03:33 - Why Product Mix Matters

00:04:20 - The 75/25 Level/GI Formula

00:05:24 - Why Agents Default to GI

00:06:08 - Client Prep for Multiple Pivots

00:07:05 - Deep Underwriting Questions

00:08:26 - Hidden Health Issues (Amputation Question)

00:09:37 - Medication Nuances That Matter

00:10:15 - When to Turn Away Business

00:10:59 - Writing GI as "Earned" ($300K Story)

00:12:22 - Why Closing Rate Changes Everything

00:13:01 - The Two-Year Chargeback Landmine

00:15:02 - Cash Flow vs Profitability

00:15:52 - Live on Minimal Budget (Month 1-9)

00:16:27 - Consistent Production is better than Spikes

00:17:01 - The $80K Crash Story

00:18:21 - Corey's August Reality

00:19:17 - Using Niche Carriers

00:19:44 - Citizen CICA for CHF & COPD

00:20:18 - Guarantee Trust Life & Royal Neighbors

00:21:14 - Identifying Carriers for Your Book

00:22:32 - Chargeback Catch-22

00:23:26 - Two-Account Strategy

00:24:03 - Carrier Payment Delays

00:25:06 - Commission Tracking Issues

00:26:10 - Cash Flow Projections

00:27:34 - Fixing Your Mix to 75/25

00:28:21 - Corey's Carrier Lineup

00:29:39 - Best Niche Carriers

00:30:24 - Toolkits Limitations

00:31:09 - The Xanax Trick (Mental Health Meds)

00:31:42 - AIG RLP vs AIG GI

00:32:44 - Ameriquest: Better Billing & Commission

00:33:38 - Custom AI Underwriter Tool

00:34:39 - Ethos: Why It's Missing from Toolkits

00:35:21 - Ethos Pre-Approval Speed

00:36:08 - Ethos Commission Structure (112% age 60-80)

00:36:31 - Know Your Contract Rates

00:37:29 - The Dementia Case (Ethos Success)

00:39:31 - Try Ethos First

00:40:22 - 30-Day Policy Babysitting

00:41:01 - Physical Policy Packet Strategy

00:41:30 - Tracking Metrics Monthly

00:48:09 - Jessica's Team Building

00:48:41 - Self-Recruited Agents

00:49:37 - Why Empower is a "Last Stop"

00:50:15 - Starting Agents: Inbound vs Dialed Leads

00:51:12 - Call Control vs Underwriting Gap

00:52:48 - Jessica's Monthly Production

00:54:19 - Money-Making Activities Priority

00:55:11 - The Roll-Up Debt Scam ($300K)

00:56:27 - How Fraud Agents Disappear

00:58:29 - Building in Safe Environment

01:00:18 - Contact Jessica 

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Sydney Deshotel of Empower Life Group went from outbound cold-calling $30-40K a month to running an inbound desk that produces just as much in a fraction of the time. She joins Corey to talk through the brutal first week of switching to inbound (she cried), why chasing follow-ups is emotionally draining and rarely worth it, and how her mood on the phone changes the outcome of a call.

They break down a real recorded call, why cutting the "why" out of an inbound script actually closes more business, and Sydney's exact process for presenting pricing without talking clients out of a sale. Plus: the day she closed 10 policies for over $10,000 in AP, and how she protects her book from chargebacks and cancellations.

TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro to Sydney Deshotel
01:19 - Execution over scripts
02:20 - Sydney's outbound numbers, switch to inbound
03:55 - Follow-up Friday
04:53 - The emotional toll of chasing ghosted clients
07:55 - The rough first week on inbound
09:55 - Detaching from the outcome
10:31 - Why inbound calls move faster
12:29 - When clients go silent after agreeing to coverage
13:35 - Cutting the "why," reading the script word for word
14:38 - Playing back a real inbound call
15:19 - How mood and energy change a call
18:53 - Why most agents quit before mastering the skill
20:34 - Daily call commitment and close ratio
21:34 - Why she stopped daily follow-ups
23:00 - Her Friday-only follow-up schedule
24:42 - Skipping the script, going into underwriting
26:12 - Cutting off a client who won't stop talking
28:16 - Retention programs and post-sale follow-up
29:26 - The couple who canceled, then un-canceled
32:47 - What Sydney did before life insurance
34:48 - How she got recruited into the industry
35:50 - Her first sale, paid the next day
38:43 - Meeting Dana Neeson, learning a real process
40:41 - Closing 10 policies for $10K+ AP in one day
43:33 - Handling "I need to think about it"
45:10 - Just write the application
47:03 - Presenting pricing options the right way
48:21 - Splitting large policies to protect against chargebacks
50:44 - How to reach Sydney

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Jack Jameson went from $300 in the bank and selling renters insurance door-to-door in Casper, Wyoming to becoming a Million Dollar Round Table producer, agency owner, and life insurance trainer. He joins Corey to share how his own family's tragedy turned life insurance from a paycheck into a moral obligation — and how that shift changed everything about how he sells.

Inside this episode: building instant trust on a cold call, why clients buy life insurance with their heart and not their head, and the funeral that turned into 12 appointments and 14 policies. Jack also shares the line he lives by: "Do not trade what you want most for what you want now."

TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro to Jack Jameson01:26 - Jack's upbringing in Louisiana
01:57 - Meeting his wife Kim
02:30 - Garbage man, dishwasher, waterbed sales
03:01 - $30K a year at Frito-Lay
04:05 - Landing the Farmers Insurance interview
05:45 - Starting with $300 in the bank
06:53 - Selling renters insurance door-to-door
07:55 - Discovering life insurance for the commission
08:31 - First death claims and the "moral obligation" shift
10:32 - Sister-in-law Kim's story and the accelerated death benefit rider
15:15 - Reframing "pushy" as "caring"
19:39 - Where Jack's passion comes from
20:19 - Building trust in 30 seconds
22:06 - Protecting people's most important asset
22:46 - The funeral that led to 12 appointments, 14 policies
24:22 - Buying with the heart, not the head
26:31 - Not sounding like a telemarketer
29:21 - Inside Jack's Life Academy
33:27 - How to reach Jack

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Episode 24: How to Add Medicare to Your Life Insurance Business

What if adding Medicare could help a life insurance agent build a stickier book, create renewal income, stay in front of existing clients, and uncover new opportunities?

Corey Mitchell sits down with Melissa Salinas, a life insurance agent who also sells Medicare, to discuss why she added Medicare within her first year in insurance and why she believes agents may be leaving opportunities on the table.

Melissa shares her experience with recurring revenue, renewals, client retention, referrals, T65 opportunities, existing-client outreach, remote appointments, carrier contracting, AHIP and annual certifications, AEP/OEP seasonality, compliance, scopes of appointment, and needs-based plan selection.

They also discuss using Medicare relationships to create life insurance opportunities, serving both spouses, working with doctors and other referral sources, and why the goal isn't to sell everything to everyone—it’s to become the person clients call when an insurance need comes up.

IMPORTANT: Medicare rules, certifications, commissions, enrollment periods and carrier requirements can change. This episode reflects the conversation and is not compliance, legal or licensing advice. Verify current requirements before selling Medicare products.

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 – Intro & Melissa Salinas
02:05 – Why add Medicare to a life insurance business?
03:26 – Melissa’s transition to Medicare
04:41 – Overcoming regulation concerns
05:30 – Recurring revenue and renewals
07:40 – Ongoing client contact
08:43 – Cross-selling while staying compliant
09:24 – Scope of Appointment
12:08 – Other products and opportunities
13:42 – Medicare clients becoming life clients
14:18 – Loyalty, persistency and referrals
16:19 – Melissa’s consultative approach
17:18 – Remote vs. in-person Medicare
19:09 – Doctors, medications and plan selection
21:36 – Leads and T65 opportunities
22:33 – Doctor relationships
25:26 – Carrier contracting
27:09 – AHIP and annual certifications
29:07 – AEP, T65 seasonality and servicing
32:28 – Turning Medicare clients into life opportunities
33:51 – Chargebacks and retention
34:34 – AEP vs. OEP
37:08 – Remote clients and seminars
38:21 – Life clients aging into Medicare
39:20 – Medicare vs. life commissions
43:35 – Is Medicare worth adding?
45:15 – AHIP, training and new opportunities
48:09 – Consulting instead of selling
48:49 – Serving both spouses
51:29 – Why new agents should consider Medicare
56:41 – Using your existing book
57:55 – Building renewal income
58:29 – Medicare compliance and marketing rules
59:24 – Scope of Appointment
01:00:05 – Final thoughts
01:01:03 – Needs analysis
01:02:00 – Closing

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Ashley Mysza is writing $700K+ year-to-date, but getting there meant surviving a toxic captive agency, $50,000 in personal roll-up debt, and two failed attempts at building a team.

In this episode, Ashley shares her almost-seven-year journey in life insurance — starting as a captive agent in Chicago during COVID, becoming a top producer through pure door-knocking, building and losing two teams under high-pressure leadership, and eventually rebuilding herself as a broker. She explains the shift from "sales rep" to "insurance underwriter," why her persistency and placement rates transformed once she stopped pushing people into policies, and how she wrote $60,000 in her first month as a broker using referrals alone.

If you're a new or struggling agent trying to figure out why activity isn't turning into results, or you're weighing a move from captive to brokerage, this one is full of specifics.

Timestamps:
00:00 Intro & welcome Ashley Mysza01:09 Getting started in life insurance during COVID02:24 Moving to Chicago to open a new territory04:07 Door-knocking her way to top producer05:12 First team-building run and early lessons06:24 Second directorship and a toxic environment07:48 What caused her first team to break down10:23 How captive company compensation works12:18 Broker vs. captive: control, detachment, burnout14:14 Rebuilding systems for her second directorship16:32 Deciding to leave and become a broker17:10 Her first IMO partnership falls apart19:00 Investing $30K in Jeremy Miner's Seventh Level training20:58 Paying off $50,000 in carrier debt23:52 Why she's an underwriter, not a sales rep26:12 From sales job to running a real business26:34 Production and persistency gains ($700K YTD)28:53 What changed to fix her persistency and placement30:53 What "alignment" means in choosing partners or recruits34:06 Her vision: a small team of $100K/month producers38:22 Purpose over profit and mentoring without dependency41:01 What makes her results different from other agents44:25 Building scripts from data and activity, not guesswork46:47 The $20,000-a-month milestone50:22 Being resourceful instead of relying on paid leads52:47 Referral strategies and adding value to clients57:50 Writing $60,000 in her first month off referrals alone59:25 In-person selling vs. cold calling1:02:23 The power of persistence1:05:43 Where to find Ashley

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What does it really take to become a great life insurance agent?

In Episode 22 of the Dialing for Dollars Podcast, Corey Mitchell sits down with Eric Andersen, a newer life insurance agent navigating the reality of building a career from the ground up.

Eric shares the challenges of starting over, managing lead costs, getting enough reps, dealing with call reluctance, building confidence, staying consistent, and figuring out how to stay in the game long enough to get good.

This conversation covers the messy middle of becoming an agent: low-quality leads, financial pressure, burnout, training overload, script execution, tonality, inbound calls, tracking numbers, personal development, accountability, warm-market conversations, and the importance of finding people who are further ahead and learning from them.

The biggest message is simple: being new doesn't mean you're failing. You're learning, building reps, and developing the skills that eventually make you great. You're not finished.

TIMESTAMPS
00:00 – Welcome & meeting Eric
01:17 – Eric’s journey into life insurance
02:38 – Adapting to working from home
04:31 – The reality of low-quality leads
05:38 – Finding the right environment
07:47 – Why new agents need community
09:00 – Training vs. getting on the phone
11:21 – Success in community, not isolation
12:13 – Eric’s lead strategy
14:06 – Commissions, cash flow & chargebacks
16:19 – Consistency & call reluctance
18:22 – Inbound calls vs. traditional leads
21:20 – Tracking your numbers
23:34 – Getting reps and learning the script
26:16 – Corey’s early struggles
28:12 – Anxiety and the nervous system
30:54 – Using the script naturally
34:38 – Avoiding training overload
37:19 – Trusting the script
38:52 – Discovery and difficult questions
41:05 – Personal development
42:47 – Protecting your mindset
44:52 – Advice for brand-new agents
46:41 – Find someone better and copy what works
48:19 – Staying in the game
49:27 – Creating financial stability
51:19 – Pressure and providing for family
52:25 – Why trying too hard can backfire
54:13 – Referrals and warm-market conversations
57:48 – Why selling to friends feels uncomfortable
01:01:05 – Practice, confidence & belief
01:02:29 – Mindset and helping people
01:03:23 – It’s simple, but it’s not easy
01:05:41 – Social media and building awareness
01:07:33 – Final thoughts

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Corey Mitchell sits down with underwriting expert Trevor Tipton, who built an AI-powered underwriting tool used across his agency, to break down what separates agents who lose deals in underwriting from those who don't. Trevor shares his path from exiting a $10M business into insurance, the systems he's built, and the exact talk tracks he uses to get clients to disclose their full health history before it costs a sale.In this episode:Trevor's path from exiting a $10M business to becoming a top-writing life insurance agentHow his AI-powered underwriting tool works, and why building your own isn't realistic for new agentsThe difference between entering conditions vs. medications when evaluating a caseComorbidity stacking: how conditions like diabetes, COPD, and heart issues interact by carrierTalk tracks for getting clients to disclose their full health history, including the contestability periodWhy the cheapest carrier isn't always the best value (concierge riders, claims service, brand trust)Vetting a client's comfort with EFT and digital signing before choosing a carrierHow to handle sensitive topics like felony records, parole, and past declinesWhy "the why" has to come before the underwriting questionsAvoiding guaranteed issue placements when a client could qualify for moreCommon application mistakes new agents make and how to avoid themTimestamps: 00:00 Welcome Trevor Tipton 01:10 Trevor's background: exiting a $10M business and finding insurance 03:01 First year in insurance: from $5K to $300K written 04:41 Rebuilding after a business partner's bankruptcy 07:01 Why Trevor is systems and automation driven 07:55 Building an AI underwriting tool for the team 10:14 How the tool works: conditions vs. medications 11:34 Walkthrough: a 72-year-old diabetic client example 12:37 Bipolar disorder across different carriers 13:43 Diabetes types and carrier-specific rules 14:49 Dementia and guaranteed issue policies 16:26 Getting clients to disclose their full health history 19:06 The talk track: explaining the contestability period 20:10 Role-play: the "pinky promise" for honesty 23:43 Toolkits vs. the proprietary underwriting tool for pricing 24:00 Choosing a carrier: value and benefits over the cheapest price 25:19 Vetting a client's comfort with EFT and digital applications 27:05 Avoiding false positives and calculating comorbidity 28:08 Stacking separate conditions for a standard rate 29:03 Asking about parole, DUIs, and past declines upfront 30:51 Carrier waiting periods after a decline 31:13 Case study: a client labeled a "bad character" 32:15 Choosing a carrier based on company reputation 33:58 Shortening the learning curve: run more appointments 34:24 Real example: an A1C that crept over the limit 35:38 Why the "why" comes before underwriting 37:05 Avoiding guaranteed issue when a client could qualify for more 37:45 Application pitfalls and carrier-specific quirks 39:40 Building rapport before asking invasive questions 40:29 Phone vs. Zoom for client meetings 41:41 Where to find Trevor Tipton 43:06 The RV lifestyle and why Trevor chose insurance 44:25 Building out health, life, and retirement verticalsFollow us on Social Media! @DialingForDollarsPodcast on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube Episodes available on Apple | Spotify | Amazon Music | PodBean | CastBox | iHeartRadio | GoodPodsCorey Mitchell Instagram: @VictoryLifeWithCorey Facebook: @VictoryLifeWithCorey TikTok: @VictoryLifeWithCorey YouTube: @VictoryLifeWithCoreyTrevor Tipton Built Different Financial Group Instagram: @Trevor__Tipton Tik Tok: Trevor_Tipton Facebook & LinkedIn: Trevor Tipton

Corey Mitchell sits down for a second time with annuity expert Thal Martin to go deep into the technical side of annuities. They walk through real client scenarios covering participation rates, cap rates, taxation, underwriting, and long-term care riders, showing why annuities demand a level of expertise most agents haven't developed yet.In this episode:Why annuities aren't regulated as securities, and the risk the insurance company takes onHow participation rates, cap rates, and floors work togetherSuitability vs. best interest: uncovering a client's real needs before recommending a MYGATax mistakes agents make when a MYGA maturesHow life insurance, wills, and trusts fit into the annuity conversationUnderwriting on annuities, including long-term care facility questionsCase study: a 70-year-old with $300K in inherited non-qualified moneyQualified vs. non-qualified money and the IRS's 10-year inherited IRA ruleRMDs and how insurance companies calculate required withdrawalsChoosing between carriers when premium bonuses and cap rates differLong-term care riders vs. income doublers, and the licensing difference between themCase study: a 52-year-old with $400K in a rollover IRA weighing accumulation vs. income annuitiesWhen staying in the market might still make senseTimestamps: 00:00 Welcome back Thal Martin 01:08 Recap: earning while you learn through joint annuity work 02:15 Why annuities aren't regulated as securities 04:01 Participation rates and cap rates explained 06:14 Suitability vs. best interest 06:57 Client case: MYGA vs. a longer-horizon annuity 12:42 Why new agents default to 5-year MYGAs 15:24 Tax mistakes when a MYGA matures 17:25 Wills, trusts, and life insurance in the annuity conversation 20:09 Do annuities bypass probate? 20:36 Underwriting questions on annuity applications 22:16 Case study: $300K inherited, non-qualified, 70-year-old client 26:03 Cash comfort and liquidity for older clients 30:07 Inherited qualified money and the IRS's 10-year rule 32:18 RMDs and required distributions 33:21 Choosing which carrier and product to recommend 35:31 Comparing premium bonuses vs. cap rates 38:52 Long-term care riders vs. income doublers 42:40 Building urgency around long-term care needs 43:27 Real client story: the cost of skipping final expense coverage 48:14 Case study: $400K rollover IRA, 52-year-old, 12-15 years to retirement 53:23 Accumulation vs. income annuities: which to choose and when 58:02 When staying in the market might still make sense 1:03:00 Final thoughts on knowing your client 1:06:09 Where to find Thal MartinFollow us on Social Media! @DialingForDollarsPodcast on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube Episodes available on Apple | Spotify | Amazon Music | PodBean | CastBox | iHeartRadio | GoodPodsCorey Mitchell Instagram: @VictoryLifeWithCorey Facebook: @VictoryLifeWithCorey TikTok: @VictoryLifeWithCorey YouTube: @VictoryLifeWithCoreyThal Martin Instagram: @insurancemoneymovesservices @ThalSmithMartin

Corey sits down with mindset coach Jerry Emeka to unpack why activity alone doesn't create sales results, and why who you're being matters more than any script or call volume. Jerry explains why most affirmations fail, how your identity gets set between ages 0-7, why the top performer in your office seems to cut through resistance like a hot knife through butter while everyone else is sawing bread, and the process he uses to help agents and business owners rewire their default state.

Corey opens up about his own struggle staying consistent with affirmations, doubting his plan when a few days pass without a sale, and how phone sales expose exactly who you're being the moment there's resistance on the line.

If you've ever done everything right and still felt stuck at the same result, this conversation on identity, the reticular activating system, and imagination as a business tool is for you.

Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:25 Welcome Jerry Emeka to the show
01:08 Only 8% of life insurance agents last a year
01:32 The apple tree metaphor: identity vs. desired outcome
02:22 You don't get what you want, you get who you are
03:00 Why top performers cut through resistance like a hot knife through butter
04:09 How ages 0-7 wire your identity and your ego's job
05:28 Internal actions create external results
06:00 Is belief alone enough to hit the top 8%?
06:57 Stop waiting for proof, start being it now
08:24 Does your identity in one area leak into every area?
10:19 Two millionaire friends, two totally different lifestyles
11:56 Success is defined by who you're being, not a number
12:26 Corey's own struggle redefining his hours and his version of success
14:02 Why change can feel "elusive"
14:53 Slowing down to locate a feeling in your body
17:10 The reticular activating system, explained
18:29 Shifting attention from doubt to the feeling you want
20:29 Why gratitude and stress can't coexist
21:16 How stacked frustrations spiral into "screw this"
23:00 Corey's dialing story: more activity, same flat results
23:58 Noticing your "autopilot" default state
25:37 Choosing your ideal state 3-4 times a day
28:17 Journaling, visualization, and inner dialogue techniques
29:59 Why replaying an old argument feels so real
31:13 Using vivid memories to anchor a winning state
33:04 Imagination shapes reality more than logic does
35:35 Why people fall back into old patterns by day four
36:18 How long it actually takes to build a new "autopilot"
37:51 Corey asks: why do I keep ending up back at square one?
39:21 Corey's old morning affirmation routine
41:54 Reframing affirmations as reminders, not requests
43:28 A simple exercise: just be, then choose the feeling
45:33 Why vain affirmations burn people out
46:30 Being in your ideal state 51% of the day
47:34 Corey's realization: he has more control than he thought
48:35 How phone sales expose exactly who you're being
49:12 How to work with Jerry Emeka
50:33 Wrap-up

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Most new insurance agents quit in their first year — not because they can't sell, but because nobody warned them how the mental side of this business actually works. Corey sits down with fellow snipers Joe Vigil and Brett Shepard to talk imposter syndrome, comparison, rejection, and what actually keeps agents in the game.

TIMESTAMPS00:00 Intro – welcome Joe Vigil & Brett Shepard01:05 Brett's path: healthcare, home health agency owner, to life insurance05:44 Joe's path: warehouse work to insurance since 201708:59 Do you ever question if you're in the right industry?12:05 "Get rich for sure," not "get rich quick"12:42 What keeps you going when failure is staring you down15:01 Learning not to take rejection personally16:35 Joe's door-knocking story and a hard lesson in empathy18:00 Overcoming the first objection ("call me back")18:36 Failing forward vs. actually failing19:43 Why agents assume everyone else has it figured out20:38 Social media, comparison, and the highlight reel22:31 Celebrating other agents' wins23:34 Imposter syndrome and "acting like an advisor"26:15 The character-switch: why top producers seem like different people on calls30:32 Comparison is the thief of joy30:59 Boring, repetitive reps and building subconscious confidence32:21 Confidence, paid leads, and practicing on the clock33:50 The $50K agent who quit anyway35:08 Finding your "why"36:03 Burning the boats — no plan B37:21 Tracking activity and getting paid fast39:23 Knowing when to switch lead sources or strategies41:39 Age leads, AI dialers, and inbound — Corey's own pivots43:59 Stacking skills: life insurance to LTC to Medicare to annuities48:09 Rejection vs. a bad outcome — what's the real difference49:10 Describe your worst week50:25 The post-good-week slump52:15 Advice if you haven't sold anything in 30 days53:20 One habit to build immediately54:02 Memorizing the script vs. understanding the framework54:29 Listen for who they are, not just what they say55:51 Lightning round58:20 One habit to quit58:34 60 seconds to talk a new agent out of quitting59:08 Where to find Joe and Brett

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