Welcome to “The Emergent Human" where we explore Optimizing Health, Embodied Spirituality and Post Conventional Living.

Today’s podcast format differs from most on our show and is a dialogue between Ostrolenk and Michelle James, CEO of The Center for Creative Emergence, and a Creative Emergence Coach. Ostrolenk and James discuss:

- How James brought improv and integral theater into a salon space

- The Integral Theory and Spiral Dynamics

- SEALFIT

- The idea of Emergence and its importance to both Ostrolenk and James

- Stability versus progress and, relatedly, security versus safety

- Different types of birth

- The value of group work when serving as a leader and when engaging as a participant

Tune in again soon to hear more conversations between James and Ostrolenk.