Today Zach sitsdown with Diane Gould, a licensed clinical social worker and a board certified behavior analyst. Diane’s work is about blending the art of psychotherapy with the science of behavior analysis. Based in Chicago, Diane works with families, school districts, and professionals, where she provides direct support, consultation, and continuing education. Diane is also the founder of PDA North America where she is creating a platform for families navigating Pathological Demand Avoidance.