Is it all debt traps and mask diplomacy? And importantly what will this relationship look like post-COVID-19? In this episode, I'm joined by Benedicte King China-Africa scholar and travel blogger and Runako Celina co-Founder of Black Livity China an online platform documenting 360° of Black experiences both in China and in relation to China. Both have lived, worked, studied and experienced China as Africans whilst Runako is still living in Beijing for 6 years and counting. In this 2 part episode, we discuss the treatment of Africans in Gouzoung, the future of China-Africa relations post COVID-19 and finally demystify Africa's loan agreements with the Chinese.