This is a clip from a 1992 phone interview I did with Sam Phillips, founder of Sun Records, and one of the founding fathers of rock 'n' roll. The interview, plus two more, and comments from the likes of Bono, Jack Clement and Dory Previn, are in my new eBook Elvis, Sam Phillips and Sun Records Revisited. But here we address a new rumour that had begun to circulate, courtesy of British journalist Roy Carr, who suggested that Elvis was not 'discovered' making a demo record at Sun. He had been peddling "for free" his mother amphetamines to black musicians, he was so eager to be discovered. At the time I thought the rumour was "bull" and I say so in this podcast. But the man who was there at the time was Sam!