This week, Haeny and Nathan get into some dirt with John McCann-Doyle, Outdoor Education Specialist and Kindergarten Teacher at Community Roots Charter School. They talk about gardening with kids, why play outdoors is so memorable, and what happens when plants don’t do what we expect. 

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