Bryon Kroger and Matt Nelson joined me on the Acquisition Talk podcast to talk about digital transformation in the Department of Defense. They are the CEO and COO of Rise8, a digital consulting company, and previously had leading roles in the Air Force’s Kessel Run software factory. In the episode, we talk about:

- Roper’s ‘There is no Spoon’ paper on the digital trinity

- Their take on the new DoDI 5000.87 Software Acquisition Pathway

- What it means for government to “own” the tech stack

- How Rise8 will support the Advanced Battle Management System

- Why entitlement funding is dangerous for organizations

This podcast was produced by Eric Lofgren. Soundtrack by urmymuse: "reflections of u". You can follow us on Twitter @AcqTalk and find more information at AcquisitionTalk.com.