Etsko Schuitema speaks to Dirk Holste regarding personal excellence and organisational development. In the conversation they also explore Agile and Teal.#careandgrowth; #leadership; #culture; #transformation; #teal; #organizationaldevelopment; #agile; #legitimateleadership; #iamheretogive; #etskoschuitema; #schuitema; #www.schuitemagroup.com