The Psychologists Podcast

Disability Is Diversity with Dr. Kathleen Bogart


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“Moebius Syndrome is rare, but disability is the most common minority in the world. 25% of Americans are disabled.” Today we learn from Dr. Kathleen Bogart, social psychologist and disability expert, about growing up with facial paralysis, “alternative expressions”, universal design, the dangers of disability simulation activities (and alternatives), disability spread, ableism, and the moral/medical/social models of disability. This one will leave you thinking hard about going “back to normal” after COVID, and it’ll probably make you want to re-watch The Lion King, too.

Dr. Kathleen Bogart is an Associate Professor of Psychology at Oregon State University and a blogger at Psychology Today. As a person with a disability, she is passionate about researching, educating, and writing about ableism, or disability prejudice. Her research focuses on the psychosocial implications of living with disability, rare disorders, or facial differences such as Moebius syndrome. Her work has been featured in the New York Times, Time, and the Financial Times.


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Moebius Syndrome Foundation: https://moebiussyndrome.org

National Organization for Rare Disorders: https://rarediseases.org 


All Kathy’s links: https://linktr.ee/KathleenBogart

Kathleen’s “Meanwhile” piece on TEDx: TEDxUofW 2021: Meanwhile

“Disability Is Diversity” Psychology Today blog: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/disability-is-diversity

Oregon State research lab: https://liberalarts.oregonstate.edu/sps/dsil


The Perfect Recipe Project: https://perfectrecipeproject.blogspot.com/?m=1


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Welcome to The Psychologists Podcast, where we talk about all things psychology through a very personal lens.


Gill Strait PhD and Julia Strait PhD are both Licensed Psychologists (TX) and Licensed Specialists in School Psychology (LSSPs, TX). They are alumni of The University of South Carolina School Psychology Doctoral Program (Go Gamecocks).

Gill is a teacher, researcher, and supervisor at a university graduate psychology training program.

Julia is a testing psychologist at Stepping Stone Therapy in Hous

Welcome to The Psychologists Podcast, where we talk about all things psychology through a very personal lens.

Gill Strait PhD and Julia Strait PhD are both Licensed Psychologists (TX) and Licensed Specialists in School Psychology (LSSPs, TX). They are alumni of The University of South Carolina School Psychology Doctoral Program (Go Gamecocks).

Gill is a teacher, researcher, and supervisor at a university graduate psychology training program.

Julia is owner and therapist at Ocean Therapy in Houston, TX, offering telehealth therapy to young adults in their 20s and 30s who are struggling with anxiety. Check it out here: https://www.oceantherapy.net/

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