The Loop is a Journalism Value Project podcast, brought to you by Reference, a self-organized network of 26 European independent news outlets, hosted by Arena for Journalism.

We are interviewing the members of this network about key challenges for them, ranging from funding and business models, to community engagement and organizational structures, as we explore what success and sustainability looks like for European independent media today.

In this episode, we interview Disclose’s journalist Pierre Leibovici about building resilience in the face of state persecution. Disclose is a French investigative journalism outlet, which has repeatedly reported on state secrets around the arms trade and intelligence cooperation with authoritarian regimes.

Most Disclose journalists have been interviewed by the French intelligence services. Most recently, a journalist had her communications surveilled and was detained and interrogated by a counter-terrorism judge.

We’re gonna discuss how membership and tracking the impact of investigations help to build resilience in the face of state persecution, and how the newsroom adapted to protect journalists and sources.

Funded by the European Union. Views and opinions expressed are however those of the author(s) only and do not necessarily reflect those of the European Union or the European Education and Culture Executive Agency (EACEA). Neither the European Union nor EACEA can be held responsible for them.