This week, Organic Matters, travels to farm walk hosted by the Tipperary and Limerick organic farmers discussion group on the farm of Pat O'Connor in Tipperary. Pat runs stockless tillage farm and his neighbour, conventional dairy farmer Tomás O'Keefe, speaks about how the two work in symbiosis, trading FYM for grazing and clover. Soils specialist John Geraghty also speaks about the need to support organic farmers' learning.