Mike Wilson, an OKWU alum and lead pastor, joins President Jim Dunn in a candid conversation about calling and purpose. Explore the idea of standing for something, not just against it, as they discuss countercultural Christianity and OKWU's role in equipping young people for their unique journeys. Engage with stories that shape perspectives.

00:00 - Intro

06:35 - Mike's ministry culture and context

10:09 - Wesleyan doctrine of Optimistic Grace