Russ Cantwell, CTO of SHI International, joins us on the episode to discuss Kubernetes (K8s), persistent storage, and how all of that affects data protection. He explains the evolving nature of persistent storage, which currently culminates in the Container Storage Interface (CSI). He explains how things have coalesced around this idea, but there are still others in the works. Finally, we talk about how data protection is affected by K8s.