On this episode we discuss relationships & acknowledging different perspectives. We talk about raising kids while learning from the medicines, growing with our kids and sharing our beliefs in spirits and other entities based on our lived experiences. We discuss our relationships with plant medicines and how personal and real they are. We discuss ‘giving up’ suffering – habits, illnesses, beliefs that don’t serve us and identifying the reasons we hang onto them – the ‘payoffs’. We venture into the topic of trauma in the body and how Western medicine compartmentalizes treatment of illnesses. We delve into how powerful the mind is in creating our reality, how we can dismantle these constructs – choose not to believe - and how this impacts our experience with plant medicines.

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