I first met Matthew Heimbach when he was a leftwing teenager, and came to one of my shows, in 2005. It was after that that he joined what we used to call the Alt Right, or the white nationalist movement, founding the Traditionalist Workers Party. He left the movement only one year ago, and we've been in touch since then. This interview with Matthew is as timely as an interview could possibly be, one of the most interesting I've ever conducted, and certainly the longest.