Rebecca Hayden and Nathaniel Perl discuss fear and anger among other topics related to integrating Ayahuasca experiences. We discuss our religious introduction to spirituality and the important questions we had at a young age which were never addressed by our religious community but were ultimately addressed by Ayahuasca. We talk about the openness and innocence of children and how important that is and how we are trying to return to that state with the help of Ayahuasca. Nathaniel shares two key experiences that provide insights on the diversity and variety of spiritual paths as well as the temptation of going into fear versus taking a different path into the unknown that will lead to where we really want to go. The alien discussion comes up again along with more insights around emotions and entities that seem to not be emotional. We also talk about our attachments to pain and unhealthy emotions.

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